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in the united states. some indexes they watch on a weekly basis have been lower recently and that will fuel a lot of talk about a bit of a slowdown. front-running the fed, guys, did you see what happened yesterday? i pointed out some of the biggest etfs in the high yield area. i'm talking about j&k had heavy volume and hitting new highs. why is that happening? a lot of people believe at the minimum the fed is going to extend forward guidance to keep interest rates low to at least 2015. all of that would be a big beneficiary to high-yield funds who are forcing people to go out on the yield curve. this is one simple way people are already anticipating exactly what the fmoc is going to be doing. back to you. >> terrific, bob. got to ask rick. looks like people sell bond, shift bonds to the dollar. rick is at cm group in chicago. >> thank you. i guess we should welcome europe to the same club the u.s. is in. lots of liquidity. maybe more liquidity coming. and a generally weak economy. welcome to the club. if you look at our charts, they pretty much reflect a lot of what central banking is doing
aren't moving anywhere. it's on hope they can get it rationalized. united states is on fire and everyone keeps saying why can't we buy ford. because of latin america and europe. >> facebook, a bit backward looking, but the best day yesterday since that ipo. it's almost you can't say ipo without saying botched ipo. that's the way everybody says it. was there a turn yesterday? >> i think that you're going to have a well p like situation is what people hope. yelp was a giant lock up that expired and all the shorts were piled on. it went up seven. you have to bet that everyone is overly short facebook to get this thing going. i think it's more of the dynamics of the lock up in actual earnings. >> the big lock up is coming november and by november, we'll have more than a million shares hit the market. >> that's a big lock up to overcome. >> aig was remarkable. had 600 million shares hit, but aig of course was valued at half book. facebook, not valued at half book. >> taking a look at the financials, it is worth noting because xlf closed at five-month highs. taking a bit of a brea
's happening in the united states. >> certainly that's going to bring down the large indices and i just wonder if you think in the fourth quarter there will be a put from central banks or from hedge fund managers that have to play catchup or could we look at the last three months last year? >> central banks are obviously very powerful. you know the old saying, don't fight the fed. you have to be very careful. but as you stretch out the time rise and what you find historically is there is no relationship between liquidity and stock market movement. but i think what's much more important is your original question, if the profit cycle continues to decelerate, i think that's what people want to think about and that's what people want to position their portfolios for. i still think personally that you want to look at more defensive sectors which i think are less prone to have these big earnings disappointments right now. >> rich, can you put together these two knows in the market that you want to be in more dmfticily oriented companies and also this other thought in the market that you want to be i
there and are you independent of what happens in the united states as a bank? >> yes, we are focused on the market. even though we have a bank operation, and asset management business, too. and insurance, too. retail banking is the most important at the moment. >> your parent company, santander, still owns 75% of you. it's a bank that needs money, that's why you're going through the ipo. how do i know as an investor that santander won't flood the market with further stock going down the line? >> well, santander has a strategy, a list of different banks in the local markets. to have more community with the markets. and even though we have that company, santander is doing great in retail banking. decisions that are better for the mexican market. >> can you prevent them from selling the other 75% of your bank on the market? >> yeah, they have decided to sell a part because mexico is a very good investment for the group and is one of the main sources of profit and is good for the group. >> before we let you go, mexico's been through many, many debt crises. what is their view of how europe is handling
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